[ kaveh looks at netzach. he hadn't been wrong, he decides.
he lifts a single finger. kaveh taps it once, in front of netzach, a single, pried-picked-chewed fingertip against the wood of the bar. ]
That's my meaning. For the research to begin, for there to be something to research, the first step is to convince Midnight that it's worthwhile for him to live, rather than survive. That amelioration is worthwhile. That is he allowed it. That he is not an exception to a life worth living, no matter how much briefer it is than it ought to be.
If that doesn't happen, none of it will help him the way we want it to, Netzach.
[ kaveh looks. alhaitham would be vocal about his opposition. but also, both of them know - he cannot stop kaveh once kaveh has decided on a course of action. nobody can.
kaveh smiles. ]
There is research that can be done even without additional subjects. If nothing else, I want to better understand it, what ways there are to mitigate suffering for a terminal patient. [ kaveh takes another draught from the bottle. the world is too-bright, too-quick. he blinks. ] ... don't lose hope, though, Netzach. Now that I've spoken of what's realistic, here is what is practical: gathering the equipment makes for an excellent argument on using it later. Believe me, it's easier to convince a town that they need a new trench dug if you've already the excavator sitting outside their doorstep.
And if it's safe to use. This is where neither of us being biologists work against us. But I know an Amurta botanist who also happens to be an expert in animal physiology. We can start there.
[ kaveh looks at netzach. ] I worry for him. You do too.
Anything, Netzach, for you. [ even if it pries his heart loose and sets kaveh aflame - anything. there are no defenses when the walls willingly open. ] What is it?
[he's buried it well enough that it takes the alcohol to make it to this topic. but--]
I said we talked it out at the gala, and that Midnight said I had to be prepared for him to tell me no about these things too, right? And that's okay. It is.
[just to be totally sure.]
He told me how he wants those things for her, too. For me, and you, and everyone. That as big as his heart is, he can only make one choice. That's why he'd have said no even if I'd thought about asking.
...I love that about him, Kaveh. I really do. The last thing I wanna do is pull him away from other people or from what he wants. [even if it weren't for him also seeing yesod, even if midnight were his only partner, he's always known he wouldn't be the only one for midnight.]
But I still feel like... sometimes when I think about that, I wish he'd said he'd have gone with me if I'd just asked. It's not that I'm jealous, just... I don't think I know what it is.
[ oh, kaveh thinks. he's going to have to bury midnight in the bottom of the ocean for this. the thought comes in a tipsy haze, because in no universe should netzach ever feel as if he is a calculated occurrence and not as natural as a breath, as rain. ]
You want him to look at you, and choose you, because you want him to choose that for himself. [ kaveh says, after a moment. ] You want to know that you are what he wants, without having to think of if Midnight is holding back because there is another ideal he is looking to. You want to look into his heart and know that you have been seen.
... yeah, I guess so. I kind of wanted to feel like he'd have decided on me.
[he knows how this is, though.]
I don't want to always come first. I'm not the only one who's important to him, and he's not the only one important to me either. And I think he worries about that, anyway, he's... he said a couple times he's worried about loving me well enough.
[it's not like he knows how he should be loved well, anyway, all of it is still such a new experience for him.]
[ 'well enough' netzach says. kaveh thinks - but who here knows what it means, to be loved well enough? by whose definition? netzach's, or midnight's? ]
Have you asked Midnight? What he thinks 'well enough' ought to mean, and if that definition of it matches how you would like to be loved. [ ... ] Have you asked him what he thinks will happen if he loves you the way he wishes to?
[oh, right. he could have asked that-- it would've been a safe question, easier than bringing up something that risked sounding like netzach thought he wasn't.]
...no. I didn't think about it. I'm... still figuring out what being loved looks like at all, I guess.
[ the lancelet edge of kaveh's eyes soften. kaveh is not gentle by nature. with kaveh, it's always about comparison and scale. compare an avidyan spinocrocodile to a rishboland tiger and one may come out with the understanding that the tiger is both warmer and more gregarious. it's with a hand made gentle by will and love and the will to conform to that love that kaveh tucks another strand of hair behind netzach's ear. the back of his fingers skim the contour of his cheeks.
netzach is warm, and flushed pink, and deserves to be happy. ]
You don't have to answer this now, either, Netzach. But it's worth asking yourself this as well, as it always is: how do you want to love Midnight? How far do you wish to go for him? And how far will you not?
Because if you are uncertain, how is Midnight to be certain? Love is often said to be something you fall into. I disagree. The initial momentum may be a downward tip. But Netzach, love is something you build together. You will always build up.
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he lifts a single finger. kaveh taps it once, in front of netzach, a single, pried-picked-chewed fingertip against the wood of the bar. ]
That's my meaning. For the research to begin, for there to be something to research, the first step is to convince Midnight that it's worthwhile for him to live, rather than survive. That amelioration is worthwhile. That is he allowed it. That he is not an exception to a life worth living, no matter how much briefer it is than it ought to be.
If that doesn't happen, none of it will help him the way we want it to, Netzach.
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Nevermind Midnight letting us, would Alhaitham and Yesod let us go all in on experimenting anyway?
[he kind of feels like the answer is no. at least for yesod.]
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kaveh smiles. ]
There is research that can be done even without additional subjects. If nothing else, I want to better understand it, what ways there are to mitigate suffering for a terminal patient. [ kaveh takes another draught from the bottle. the world is too-bright, too-quick. he blinks. ] ... don't lose hope, though, Netzach. Now that I've spoken of what's realistic, here is what is practical: gathering the equipment makes for an excellent argument on using it later. Believe me, it's easier to convince a town that they need a new trench dug if you've already the excavator sitting outside their doorstep.
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[his fingers tap idly on the bartop.]
We can just... spend some time figuring out what any equipment we can get our hands on is actually capable of.
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[ kaveh looks at netzach. ] I worry for him. You do too.
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[his gaze drops to the bottle, brow furrowed. since when was this empty...]
I just want to know he's okay.
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this, one, he uncorks with his teeth, before setting it into netzach's hands. ] Incorrible. That's what he is.
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That's definitely one word for it. But I don't really mind much.
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[another drink.]
When you talk down on yourself, too.
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I don't- well. No more than the average person.
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[it is Not an average amount.]
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Is this another instance of that fabled 'do as I say, not as I do'?
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[he takes another drink, leans in to steal another kiss.]
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You're an exacting man, Netzach. I hardly have a defense against you.
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[he's smart. he knows his way around a debate, better than netzach does. so it's more that he decides not to mount that defense, isn't it?
that's up to kaveh, though. netzach's quiet for a moment, taking another drink.]
Kaveh, can I... I wanna ask you about something.
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Anything, Netzach, for you. [ even if it pries his heart loose and sets kaveh aflame - anything. there are no defenses when the walls willingly open. ] What is it?
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I said we talked it out at the gala, and that Midnight said I had to be prepared for him to tell me no about these things too, right? And that's okay. It is.
[just to be totally sure.]
He told me how he wants those things for her, too. For me, and you, and everyone. That as big as his heart is, he can only make one choice. That's why he'd have said no even if I'd thought about asking.
...I love that about him, Kaveh. I really do. The last thing I wanna do is pull him away from other people or from what he wants. [even if it weren't for him also seeing yesod, even if midnight were his only partner, he's always known he wouldn't be the only one for midnight.]
But I still feel like... sometimes when I think about that, I wish he'd said he'd have gone with me if I'd just asked. It's not that I'm jealous, just... I don't think I know what it is.
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You want him to look at you, and choose you, because you want him to choose that for himself. [ kaveh says, after a moment. ] You want to know that you are what he wants, without having to think of if Midnight is holding back because there is another ideal he is looking to. You want to look into his heart and know that you have been seen.
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[he knows how this is, though.]
I don't want to always come first. I'm not the only one who's important to him, and he's not the only one important to me either. And I think he worries about that, anyway, he's... he said a couple times he's worried about loving me well enough.
[it's not like he knows how he should be loved well, anyway, all of it is still such a new experience for him.]
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Have you asked Midnight? What he thinks 'well enough' ought to mean, and if that definition of it matches how you would like to be loved. [ ... ] Have you asked him what he thinks will happen if he loves you the way he wishes to?
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[oh, right. he could have asked that-- it would've been a safe question, easier than bringing up something that risked sounding like netzach thought he wasn't.]
...no. I didn't think about it. I'm... still figuring out what being loved looks like at all, I guess.
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netzach is warm, and flushed pink, and deserves to be happy. ]
You don't have to answer this now, either, Netzach. But it's worth asking yourself this as well, as it always is: how do you want to love Midnight? How far do you wish to go for him? And how far will you not?
Because if you are uncertain, how is Midnight to be certain? Love is often said to be something you fall into. I disagree. The initial momentum may be a downward tip. But Netzach, love is something you build together. You will always build up.
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